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Waspi amendment to Pensions Bill stalls as splinter group plans protest

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The Women Against State Pension Inequality campaign’s attempt to get an amendment into the Pension Schemes Bill appears to have faltered as political parties failed to reach a consensus on its introduction.

The Bill, which relates to the regulation of master trusts, had its second reading in the House of Commons last night.

The Scottish National Party defended its decision not to try to introduce an amendment to the Pension Schemes Bill with provisions for the group, which is campaigning for transitional measures for women for in the 1950s who have seen their state pension age increase.

In the debate, Labour said it was disappointed that the Bill was limited to master trust issues and did not look at other issues of state or occupational pension provision.

Labour MP and work and pensions select committee chairman Frank Field said they he had hoped introducing an amendment would not kill the Bill, but would delay it to make a statement about Waspi.

Field said: “The plan was not to kill the Bill but just to hold it up for a bit so that we could hopefully highlight the position of Waspi pensioners, for soon they will all be retired and the horror will have been completed. We have no other weapon against the Government, because they have made it plain that they are going to sit out this issue. The Scottish nationalists were not prepared to form an alliance with those of us who want to block the Bill in order to actually raise this issue and perhaps implement the recommendation of a previous Select Committee report.”

Labour shadow pensions minister Alex Cunningham added: “If one line was added to the Bill to extend pension credit to the Waspi women—that is our policy—it would have gone a long way to pacifying us this evening.”

SNP pensions spokesman Ian Blackford MP agreed that it was disappointing the Bill did not address the Waspi issue, but said it would have been “impossible” to do so given its scope.

Blackford said: “You made the point that this is a narrow Bill, which is exactly why it would have been impossible to amend it to take account of the Waspi case. [Field] should know that an attempt to kill the Bill would have done exactly that, and we do not solve the problem faced by Waspi women by defeating this Bill, which is so necessary to protect pension savers. Frankly, he should be thoroughly ashamed of himself; he does no justice for the Waspi women with his campaign and the remarks he is making.”

Earlier this week, Money Marketing revealed that the SNP had taken its decision not to support an amendment to the bill based on advice from parliamentary clerks that any changes related to the state pension would stop the Bill going through.

Non-Waspi group forms

Money Marketing has also seen a new strategy document from a group, ’63 is the new 60′, which is campaigning for transitional measures separately from Waspi.

The group is calling for state pension provision from age 63, and is calling for members to attend a demonstration organised by other non-Waspi groups the 50s Women’s Action Group and Waspi Voice on 21 February.

The strategy document, which members are told not to share with the official Waspi group, asks members to renew their effort to write to Theresa May and their MPs.

The document reads: “We strongly believe that she is being kept out of the loop on this issue which the men in grey suits may well feel is ‘not that important’. If you have a supporting MP, then please push him to write to the Prime Minister on your behalf.”

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  1. Re your last paragraph, I HAVE contacted my MP twice on this isssue. Once explaining my complete situation: finding out from a magazine article that instead of 2 years to go, I had SEVEN, I received a patronising reply basically just brushing off my story. The second time I contacted him I never received a reply at all. (Almost 3 months ago). They’re a waste of time and money.

  2. Perfect, about time these women stopped wanting equality then whinging when it does not suit them!

    • I look forward to the day when we actually are equal. What Cameron, Osborne and Clegg did to fifties women shows very clearly that we are not on any kind of equal playing field.

    • I don’t want equality mate I’m already superior … I just want the 7 years they owe me.

    • So can you tell me HOW we have equality when women’s pension age goes up by 6 YEARS and mens pension age goes up by only 1YEAR ? How is that not discrimination towards women? And I might add, despite what the DWP say, thousands of us had no notice of the increase. The reason women’s pension age was lower than mens is because women are usually several years younger than their husbands and it made sense for them to retire at the same time so that they could enjoy their retirement. Now we have men who have already retired spending lonely days without their spouse for the next 6 or 7 years. Yea that sure seems fair to me.

    • Clearly you are ignorant of the issues. When YOU are aged 65 and they add another 6 years to your SPA with no warning then perhaps you can lecture on equality. I now have to wait an extra 6 years for something that was due to me next week aged 60. Most women caught up in this trap are in favour of the retirement age being 65 for all. However, Its not about equalty of retirement age, its about lack of notice given to us to allow for proper financial planning. Most of didn’t even get notified by the DWAP. We got that info off support sites such as WASPI and WAG etc.
      Please try to read around the issue, rather than sucking up the daily fail script. Does everything have to be about a race to the bottom. The politics of envy is never a good look sir.

    • It’seems not about equality, we know the age was rising. But my date for retirement and a lot of others has moved 3 times, without the adequate notice.

      • Mine too! It’s disgusting! Basically breach of contract end of! However if it was a large company they would be held to answer. Our government just rides roughshod over all of us born in that decade!

    • So it’s ok for women to have fragmented equality when it suits men. But today while young women graduates outperform male graduates but still end up earning less with less opportunities -that’s fair equality. Do me a favour and donate your balls and revisit life as a woman!!

      • Brilliant and hear hear !

      • Well said…. To the male ( David Brookes ) who thinks we should stop whinging …… You have no idea! So to have paid in over 40+ years is fair? You obviously don’t understand , you don’t want to understand and for the sake of mankind you should shut up!

      • You tell him Jue !!

      • I agree with many of the comments about the unfairness of the situation for many women in this article. However, ranting and raving is not going to get people on your side – I’m one potential supporter more inclined to skip along than help out after reading this tirade. Touting Trump style ‘facts’ also doesn’t help – according to the latest Office for National Statistics (ONS) data, women aged 22-39 are actually paid slightly more than men on average. From age 40 onwards there is a significant gap in favour of men but the data suggests this is more down to lifestyle choices of women and part-time working than systematised inequality.

        • Lifestyle choices ?? oh you mean when we were pregnant for 9 months and looking after the children because they didnt go to school till 5, there were no nurseries, we didn’t get Child Tax Credit, didn’t get Child Benefit for the first child walked our children to school and back because we didn’t all have cars. Oh yes course we earned more NOT

    • David have you any idea what this is all about because from your comment it appears that you don’t, not being informed that your pension date has been altered and unable to provide for your future, is more than disheartening , if it was the case with men I would be supporting them and shouting from the roofs, but I guess if it doesn’t effect you then it doesn’t matter to you. Not getting the pension when they expected it has wrecked a lot of people’s lives, it has nothing to do with equality!!!!

    • Perfect, women wish you luck with all the extra you will have to now do to make all things equal not just SPA. Hope you don’t mind caring duties for 6 Yrs on £65 a week. That suit you? No whinging now!

    • I have worked for 47 years got all my ni and tax since I was 15 years old. I have had to give up work due to having astioarthritis in my hands hips knees ankle. I am not a a winger But i have also looked after both of my parents, my older grandchildren, and now our youngest . I struggle with lots of things like car seats it can take me up to 15 minutes to get him strapped in, but I don’t let that deter me from having him. My friends who were born in 1953 they get there state pension but mine has been put on hold yet again I will be 65 and 10 months that’s not fair the government is fraudulent to all these woman it’s about time we got our state pension. Believe me it’s not that the age has gone up but by how long so a friend of mine 10 months between us she has her pension why the haven’t we got ours

      • I was born in ’53 and can assure you I do not get my pension until March next year. Women born in early ’53 have got theirs, however, if you were at the end of ’53 you will get it at the end of 2018

        • Julie women born at the end of ’53 will not get theirs until 2019. Women born in ’53 reach state pension in 5 different years – 2015,16,17,18,19.

          • If you look at the timescale for women born in ’53 there is a massive gap in SPA for women born at the end of the year. No matter when you were born though, we did not get the benefits of maternity leave etc. Imagine the horror that that would induce now! Not even family allowance for your first child depending on their date of birth.

    • Imagine you had no notice and the Government decided your pension age would rise by 4 to 5 years giving you no time to make provision. I would like the pension age to drop for everyone to 60 many men who do manual jobs will not be able to carry on working to 68 plus. Perhaps vent your anger on the Government and not women of a certain age group who have suffered enough.

    • Like when women have worked alongside men for half pay doing same job for decades you mean?
      Like men tend to look after their elderly parents and in laws as well as provide grandchild care AND WORK you mean?
      When you spend 48 hrs squeezing a 10lb baby from your arse mate I’ll consider you MY EQUAL

    • You show quite clearly that you do not understand this issue. Waspi have never had any issue with equalusingbthecpension age with men!!!!

    • So you have not bothered to find anything out!

    • My dear man. I would suggest you get your facts right before you spout off about something you clearly know nothing about. This is not about equality. In 1940 women also retired at 65 but this was changed by men because men mostly married younger women who remained in work when they retired. You see they had no one there to look after them.
      I would be more than happy to work until 65 but was made redundant and because of my age cannot get a job. I have NO income and will not for another 5 years. I was given three years notice of these changes which happened to be the same year I was made redundant!

    • It’s nothing to do with equality! It’s about not receiving notice of change, not giving the affected women enough time to rearrange their finances. Also the same age groups SP age changing twice within two years!

    • Clearly you do not understand the issue, try educating yourself and by all means then come back for further comment.

    • Hey get your facts right WASPI aren’t about changing the age it’s about the little or no notice we got and asking for some of the £35,000+ back we have paid in !! I’m sure as hell you would have something to say if you were told at 63that you had no pension until you were 71 !!!!

    • I think you don’t fully understand what this is about. Of course we are in favour of equalising the state pension age but if you check out how this has been done then you would see that the pension age had been changed for women born in 1950’s (so, for me, i would retire at 62, which was fair enough) but when i was 61 i found out that the coalition government had changed it again so now i retire at 64 and a half. They did not inform us of these changes so many of us expected our pension knowing it had been changed but not knowing that this change had been accelerated again.

    • How rude. We are against the very short notice not about the age change. Personally I have worked since I was 15. I’ve paid my NI and have had this right to my pension removed. I still work and still pay NI. I’ve brought up 2 children alone. I’ve given more to this society than many. So don’t you dare be so critical. If this had happened to you with a private or state pension you wouldn’t be lying down without a fight.

    • You clearly do not understand their situation.

    • Get your facts right before you comment, you need to start from the beginning it’s INEQUALITY NOT equality.

    • Women live longer than men. Often quietly ignored when discussing SPA.

    • Hi David. I started work when I was 15 years old in 1969, I was not paid on a par with a man
      Till 1971. The in justice is not being informed about the change of our pension. It’s got nothing to do equality.

    • Our mortality rate will soon equal mens but that of course is what the government intends lifetime of tax then go to Hell other country’s with economy’s a lot dire to ours are treating their workers a lot more respectfully

    • If you’d read it properly you would see that women of my age have no objection to the rise in pension age, what we object to is not being informed that instead of retiring at 60 we had to wait till 66! It went up in a very short time giving women born in the fifties no time to plan for retirement. Check the facts before commenting.

    • David, I am in full agreement that our state pension should be 65 the same as men’s, I think you’ve missed the point, which is that we weren’t given enough notice, I had a letter 3 months before my 60th birthday, stating that my pension age will now be 65 and 3 months age, this wasn’t enough notice to do anything. I am also still working and taking a youngers persons job. You’ve missed the point David!!

    • You are completely missing the point.
      I, and many other woman of similar age were under the impression that we would receive my state pension at 60 up until it was too late to reorganize my retirement provision. I stayed at home to look after my two children with the result of 10 years less contributions to my working pension. I was happy to do this and was reassured in the knowledge that I would receive my state pension at 60.
      How many times do we have to repeat these statements?
      Your comment is at the least, patronising and the most, insulting!

  3. Mary, I’m a member of “63 is the new 60” women’s pension group. This is the reply we suggest you make to unhelpful Conservative MPs. “Do you really think it is right that a woman born on 5 June 1953 is now drawing her state pension whilst another born exactly 12 months later has to wait until 2020 before she can draw hers? If you believe this inequity is correct then sadly I think it is political correctness rather than moral that instructs your opinion. How do you justify your view?” This is a simple question that leaves no wriggle room for obfuscation which forms the basis of the usual response.

  4. I want MY money.
    42yrs as qualified nurse in the NHS.then robbed by the government
    shocking

  5. So you don’t actually want gender equality. You want equality in the increase in state pension age in order to maintain inequality. Interesting stance…

    What do we want!? Continued inequality!!

  6. Forget PPI. Forget Equitable Life. This is nothing short of a national outrage, with half a million women thrust into poverty through no fault of their own (and of course it impacts on men, too, forced to support their wives on their own meagre pension for six years). The whole thing reeks of misogyny; women were not informed of a life-changing 4 year hike in SPA in 1995, and many were not informed about the additional 2 year increase in 2011; yet men who are now reaching pension age are getting two separate letters informing them that they can claim winter fuel allowance etc., which everyone knows about anyway. And as for us getting the mythical £155 a week under the new pension – don’t make me laugh.

  7. We have nothing against the pension age being equalised it’s the speed it’s been done to the 50s women. May I politely suggest you read exactly what the campaign is as you could well have family members who would be grateful of your support!

  8. Born June 54.
    No option now but to go to court.
    We won’t fall for that feeble excuse – no money in the pot. They have all our pension money that we have paid in. Not our fault they have mis-managed and given it to others who don’t pay in!
    Cameron said he would look after people who work hard – never happened!

  9. Lesley Howard Smith 31st January 2017 at 5:02 pm

    As for equality we 50s born ladies started work in the 70s when equal pay was non existent, we have had to accept this most of our working lives, bringing up our families and now many of us looking after elderly parents and trying to help with grandchildren I was never informed officially of any pension age change until 2011. I was then told instead of retiring in 2015 I had to work until 2020, then they added another year so I cannot get a pension until 2021..6 more years for which I will have paid in 49 years NI contributions. We want what we were promised when we paid our contributions …

  10. Sorry Mark for women born in 50 ‘ s having children in 70 ‘ s it was not like 2 day.lion share of caring children and dependent relatives housework and for most women full time work to make ends meet. At the time most men go away with just going to work.so to misuse the word equality as reason to select a small group of women without notice is shameless.thankful those days gone I have sons and grandson who support a fair transition they can see working at 63 and still got 3 years go on quite simply exhausting.this us to say nothing of the issue of paying in for 50 years to get a pitance back is robbery

  11. “highlight the position of Waspi pensioners, for soon they will all be retired and the horror will have been completed” – For those born in ’54 who are the first to have an SPA of 66, 2020 does not seem ‘soon’ at all. Women born in ’53 reach State Pension Age in 5 different years – 2015,2016,2017,2018,2019. The utter contempt shown by the Government to the women of this country who have ‘worked hard and done the right thing’ all their lives beggars belief.

    • I totally agree Christine. I was born in Dec 54 and get State Pension on my 66th Birthday. I knew of the 1995 rise in State Pension age as I received a letter with a salary slip at work. I would get it at 64+. Would have preferred 60, but accepted the change as there was time to plan. The 2011 change has ruined those carefully made plans and I am angry and upset. It’s as though the government think they’ve got away without much of a fuss first time (1995) so we’ll have another go at them (2011). My husband was born in Jan 54 and gets his state pension in May 2020. I get mine in Dec 2020. Equality??? I think the government will try to stall decisions on state pension until us 50s ladies have reached our planned SPA anyway and all the fuss dies down. That’s if we reach SPA!!!

  12. State pension is an entitlement not a benefit
    I started work in the seventies believing I would be
    Able to retire at 60 when my husband would be 66.
    I got no notification that my retirement age would now 66
    So now my husband will be 72 when I eventually get my state pension.
    So much for enjoying our golden years
    We have paid in our contribution give us our ENTITLEMENT OUR STATE PENSION,
    As far as I am concerned the government has stolen my money
    PAY US OUR PENSIONS
    Some of us need it and are unable to work due to ill health
    And as for that txxt in glasses saying we have a good benefit system
    Yeh mate you try and get help! But then you don’t need it do you!

  13. Shame not one of the newspapers printed my letter last Friday:
    How to handle a woman
    While Theresa May is giving Donald Trump a few pointers on how to improve his attitude towards women, she might care to remember our Government’s treatment of 50s women:
    Date of Birth 5 January 1953 State Pension Age 62 years 8 months
    Date of Birth 6 December 1953 State Pension Age 65 years 3 months
    Is this not treating women with the utmost contempt, Mrs May?

  14. The comments from some of the men beggar belief! They don’t seem to have a clue about or empathise with a woman’s lot. I had planned to retire at sixty. My professional career had me down to retire at sixty. I felt I was provided for even though I had a very small work pension (having left work for several years trying for and bringing up my son) because I knew the state pension would be there. No such luck. First there was a letter saying my state ensign would be paid at 64 instead of 60 which was bad enough, then another letter stating that, sorry, no it would now be 66yrs 8 months!!! Firstly, to continue doing my job after age 60 was not feasible due to the physical nature as well as the emotional drain teaching pupils with severe behavioural problems. Then my aged parents both developed dementia (Alzheimer’s and Vascular Dementia) and needed a lot of attention so a job really was out of the question. However, my husband then was made redundant from a well paid job at 63 and people just don’t want to hire him because of his age and experience. They can pay much less to someone younger. It looks as if we may lose our home that we have worked so hard for and only just managed to pay off. What to do? I have applied for jobs but no luck yet. If I do take a job my parents will be abandoned in the final years of life. If I had received my state pension at 60 things would be ok. I worked out that the govt should be due me about £36000 in lost pension money. I have worked hard all my life and never claimed a thing from the govt. I am so angry.

  15. i have put 45 years of NI contributions and I know some people that have put nothing in the pot and they will be drawing 155-00 pension which is not fair

  16. This issue will not go away. We won’t get our pension ‘soon’. I (and many others) have another 6 years to go! We will not give up. Steve Webb has admitted mistakes were made and they need to be put right.

  17. Money Marketing, I was born 1958 and have to wait until 2024 for my SP. If only I could retire soon as per your article! The march is being organised by ’50s WAG, Waspi Voice, 63/60 & Protest Against 2011 Act. Please get your facts straight before publishing!

  18. THE ARTICLE IS INCORRECT. The demonstration on the 21st Feb has been organised by 50sWAG with support from several other non Waspi Ltd groups including ’63 The New 60′; Waspi Voice; ‘Protest Against the 2011 State Pension Increase; Bees Knees and ‘We paid in You pay out’. The groups have united to form The Combined Women’s Action Group with the aim of informing the government that Waspi Ltd do not represent all 50s women. Many thousands of us believe the Waspi Ltd proposal of a “bridging pension to provide an income until State Pension Age – non means tested and with compensation for losses for those women who have already reached their SPA” is unrealistic, undesirable and is actually harming any prospect of a solution to the issue. We want the government to accept there is a need to address this growing crisis but we have listened to all sides, taken advice from MP’s and accept the need for a reasonable approach. The Combined Women’s Action group demo will start at the York Road exit to Waterloo Tube station at 12.30pm on Tuesday 21st Feb and we welcome all 50s women.

  19. Mariana Robinson 31st January 2017 at 7:51 pm

    I’m the leader and author of “63 is the new 60” women’s pension group. Our proposal has gone to the APPG set up to address this issue. We are a non political, non wasp group asking government to compromise by allowing the rest of fifties born ladies the right to state pension at age 63. No other decade has been so badly treated with regard to state pension. No notice, no pension, and huge discrepancies between birth date and SPA. It’s wrong. Former pensions ministers have admitted they got it wrong. Richard Harrington has said in an interview that we should all have ten.years notice of significant change. Well we didn’t get any of that. The rally on Tuesday 21 Feb is not our rally. It was set up by 50s WAG group, and is made up of all the other Pensions group who are not Waspi Limited. It is a joint really for all women who realise that the government will not pay out back to age 60 and offers a perfectly good compromise.

    • Why are 1950s women worse affected than 1960s women, who have a higher state pension age, no notification, and in many cases have suffered three increases to their SPA?

  20. This makes me so angry, I’ve worked since I was 15 left school on a Friday and started work on the Monday, had three children and Still worked part time till they were at school then had a full time job I was born in May 54 and don’t get my pension till Jan 2020. I have ailments but have to sign on for jSA. I feel belittled and betrayed as I understood I would get my pension at 60. I’ve worked hard all my life I just want what is mine, what I paid in to for all those years, while the kids of today could be doing the jobs and training for a good future, but instead they want us to sit back do as we are told work till you drop I’ve got news for you……we won’t be doing that we won’t go away, government owe us and we will fight to the end.!!!!!

  21. It is very sad that the men that have commented on here, do not have a clue as to what has happened to us 50s women. Even today it is admitted women still earn less than men, we are not the same as men, we create life and give birth to the next generation. There is nothing wrong with equality as long as women have had equality through out their working lives.

    • 63% of OECD countries already have equal pension ages, where women also give birth and have had to deal with historical inequalities. Out of those with unequal pension ages, all but three have equalisation legislation in place.

      While there are still many inequality issues that we need to deal with (and not just gender), the notion that a 5 year gap in state pension ages is the way to address this is both outmoded and absurd. It would also place us out of sync with the vast majority of comparable countries around the world, as well as going against EU equalisation principles.

    • Women live longer than men.

  22. I am 63 years old and still working because I was born in Feb. 1954. My husband is 69 years old and has been forced to return to work as a support worker because we cannot retire together as planned. This unfair new pension age, not only affects wives, but also their elderly husbands.
    Does the government not understand that because we are all still working in our sixties we are unavailable to care for elderly relatives. This could explain why their are so many problems with finding carers for the elderly population at the moment. If we had our pension at 60 we would be at home looking after our elderly relatives instead of trying to earn a wage to survive.
    I want my pension, but I also want to be in a position to retire and look after my elderly relatives who are at the mercy of caring agencies all week.

  23. What a shame to see posted moronic comments about equality. Equality is something we will fully never get. If we got the same salary and treatment in the workplace then I could say it was happening. Please read more about it instead of firing off about something totally different. The issue is 50’s women either didn’t get any notification that the pension age was changing (myself) or got it too late to make provision so they had something to cover that period. My retirement age has increase by five and a half years just due to my date of birth. Why should we just roll over and take this. It’s totally wrong. Were men on the receiving end of this treatment would they be so contemptuous?…. It’s not a case of whinging, it’s about fairness and right.

  24. I was born in 1953 and I don’t receive mine until I’m 3 weeks off being 65 so just a few months difference in birth dates have made a huge difference.

  25. I elected not to join the firm’s pension scheme when I started work with my present firm but to continue with the private pension policy I had already taken out. The office scheme required a 3% contribution from women and 4% from men. Men would get 1/60 of their final salary for each year’s contribution plus a 50% widow’s pension with an additional pension for orphaned children (you only need to lose one parent to be an orphan). Women were entitled to 1/80 of their final salary for each year’s contribution and no widower’s pension unless their spouse was disabled and no children ‘s pension unless they were a single parent or their spouse was disabled. Part-time workers weren’t eligible to join the scheme. If you became self-employed, you were no longer able to continue in the scheme.
    Obviously such discrimination is no longer permitted and contributions and pensions are now equal but this is part of the history of pensions for women and why the way we are now being treated is so unreasonable and unfair.
    I accepted the increase to 62 as reasonable and the second rise to 63 years 2 months and 27 days as an odd date but doable. It would mean my husband and I to retire together and I had considered working past 60 for this reason. The final date of 4 days before my 65th birthday, which the DWP kindly refer to as getting my pension at 64, is a step too far. I have a demanding job, long term diabetes and multiple sclerosis. If it hadn’t expired when I was 60, I could be claiming on my permanent health policy. The DWP tell me I could claim the same benefits as a man of my age but with a husband who has continued working past 65 so that we can retire together, I am not eligible for any means tested benefits. A man of my age would have taken out policies covering him until he was 65. In 2006 I signed a new partnership deed which reduced the retirement age of partners from 65 to 60. I would not have done this had I known what the government had in store. The partnership agreement makes good provision for those retiring early on the blinds of ill health but having made the partnership retirement age coincide with the then state retirement age I would no longer be retiring early and must soldier on.
    My concern is not the equalisation of the retirement age. It’s the way the goal posts have been moved so many times and the inadequate notice of the final results.

    • Women born before April 1959 will have only had two rises to their state pension age (1995 and 2011). They were not affected by either the 2007 or 2014 Acts, and these are the only items of legislation that changed state pension age. When were you informed about the rise to 62?

  26. It is a positive step that many women are distancing themselves from the delusional WASPI campaign. However, “63 is the new 60” suffers from much of the same issues. A “compromise” on an unachievable and nonsensical demand doesn’t mean that the new aim is any more fair or realistic. Labour’s idea after hi-jacking the Bill was an extension to Pension Credit for those affected by the 2011 Act, which shows the limit of what even the “supportive” MPs think is possible.

    Even in the unlikely event that the government were to budge, there is a significant threat of legal action against any “transitional arrangements” on the grounds of creating further inequality. Swift and decisive legal action that is, rather than the “crowdfund and spend the next few months talking about producing A DIY guide” variety.

  27. This was all announced in the 1993 budget and then enacted in the pension act 1995. How much notice do you need??

  28. According to the Pension Act 1995, I should receive my state pension 6 March 2019. In 2011 it was changed to 6 September 2020 and although they try to tell you that they wrote to people who were affected, I did not receive any such letter. I have all my paperwork and will be contacting my MP and Theresa May. It is the fact that I have to wait a further 18 months that I am so angry and upset about.

  29. David and Mick I smell something like egg………… Do you have a mother who is affected by this or a sister who will be penalised too. Doesn’t matter what you comment the families of all 50’s women will suffer! by the time 50’s women gets their SPA most will have paid NI and Tax for 51 years. Men at age 65 qualified for their SPA’s by paying in for 44 years where is the equality in that?? And who looks after the grandchildren and elderly parents…..

    • I haven’t made a single statement that could be construed as misogynist, so no idea why you are aiming that comment at me. However, the question still remains unanswered (and perhaps unanswerable) as to why this is a uniquely 1950s women issue. Why are 1950s women worse affected than 1960s women, who have a longer wait until state pension age, and unlike 1950s women have never been sent a notification letter? Every man and woman in this country born after 1961 has a higher state pension age than any WASPI woman, have never been individually notified, and will face many of the same issues as 1950s women.

      Rather than being fixated on what men supposedly think, WASPI women would be better served thinking why their group arbitrarily excludes millions of women born after 1959, and applies double standards to men and women outside their cohort. There are genuine issues that need to be tackled in relation to age discrimination in the workplace and the benefit system for older workers. However, the myopic and divisive WASPI campaign is not moving us any further towards addressing these.

      • Suzanne Albright 2nd February 2017 at 6:09 pm

        I know it is totally unfashionable but here is a 1950s woman, with an SPA of 65 and 5 months, who agrees with everything you said there! Not all of us are campaigning to have the existing legislation overturned / to get exempted from the increases on the grounds that we are more special than others whose SPA was increased by more than ours. I would hazard a guess that most 1950s women just take the increases in their stride as they appreciate why they were necessary.

    • In relation to the care issue, 1 in 6 men aged 50-64 have caring responsibilities, and there are nearly 200,000 carers under the age of 18. Carers are not served well by the current State Pension system, which was highlighted in the Cridland Report. Although it is an issue that affects women more than men, it is not an issue unique to women, and certainly isn’t an issue that affects only 1950s women.

  30. David Brookes – How would you feel if you found out a man born the same year as you had a State Pension Age 2 years 7 months less than yours? (DOB 5 Jan ’53 SPA 62 years 8 months, DOB 6 Dec ’53 65 years 3 months). The Government would never have done this to men. It reeks of misogyny.

  31. In relation to the care issue, 1 in 6 men aged 50-64 have caring responsibilities, and there are nearly 200,000 carers under the age of 18. Carers are not served well by the current State Pension system, which was highlighted in the Cridland Report. Although it is an issue that affects women more than men, it is not an issue unique to women, and certainly isn’t an issue that affects only 1950s women.

  32. Christine Bell, I think you are getting misandry and misogyny confused!

  33. I am a 1950,s woman, born in 56, and I have never recieved any notification from the DWP at all and neither has anyone I know! Paul Lewis from money box asked tge DWP under the freedom of information act if the DWP had sent out letters notifying us and they admitted they haven’t, so you are wrong in saying that we were notified.

    • The FOI requests in question showed that 17.8m Automatic State Pension Forecasts were issued between 2003 and 2006 to the working population, and personalised letters were sent to men and women born between 1950-60 between 2009 and 2013 informing them of rises to the state pension age.

  34. Suzanne Albright 2nd February 2017 at 6:17 pm

    As a 1950s woman myself, I keep being amazed that none of the women who demand to get exempted from the increases in some way ever seem to spend a moment thinking about the source of the extra payments they would like for themselves.

    There seems to be a view that “Government” has the several tens of billions that would be needed, when in reality it would be the taxpayer who would have to fund it, either directly through NIC/Tax increases or indirectly, through less money being available for other areas, or through increased borrowing. None of the campaigners seems to care that they would create these additional liabilities for people whose own SPA is 66 or higher.

  35. Well, Suzanne you obviously aren’t financially affected as others by this and to Mick Hudson, you might declare 17.8m automatic state pension forecasts were issued but I for one have never received anything relating to pensions from the DWP at any time. Out of interest, do you also feel as strongly about the people who use the NHS in this country then slope off without paying vasts amounts for their treatment? These people put nothing into this country just take out. You state people working in future generations would be paying for the several tens of billions needed. Do you not realise that for all the old folk who claim state pension now (and the many wives who never worked also getting it), we are paying the price for the pittance they paid in years ago. A penny or a shilling etc does not equate to what is being drawn out now.

  36. I am a lady born in 1955 started working at the age of 15 full time, but did jobs when I was 11 and then when old enough worked in shops to make money, don’t remember getting any tax concessions, but have worked full time since working, and then studied to be a nurse doing my training whilst working and because wages were crap did extra work. working in bars etc., to make ends meet. and paid NI and insurance since then, we were taught the wrong way to lift during working as a nurse, hence I ended up having a trapped nerve since 2002, so no use to work on wards, looked after my sister before she died and also my dad until he died 11 years ago and now have been looking after my mum full time as she lives with me and my husband, but get no help, so I am saving the government both on costs for a care home and also saving them money on my pension, should have got it 2015 but have to wait until 2021 yet a person born 2 years before me will get their pension this year, what is fair about that. Personally I don’t believe in equality as in nursing the men move us the ladder quicker. I didn’t ask for my pension age to rise as I have been working since age 15, nowadays there are more opportunities for girls to go to University and most don’t start work until well into their 20’s so yes they can work until 66 and let us retire at 60 and perhaps there would be more job opportunities for the younger generation

  37. […] A non-Waspi group also campaigning for transitional measures has also come to light, with a strategy document from the group having been viewed by Money Marketing. […]

  38. I was born late 1953 and have to wait until March 2019 for my pension. We were conned and told we would be compensated with new higher rate but with deduction for being contracted out and paying into work pension get n o more than would have been at age 60. Already paid in for 40 year but get reduced pension when I get there at age 66. Was made redundant late 2016 – who wants to employ a 63 year old for a few years?

  39. I was never informed and hoped to retire at 60, some 18 months ago. And yes I like many others who were promised that we would be ok in retirement if we stayed at home to look after our children in their early years. So I thought okay the government have just slapped an extra 6 years of work on me so I’m up for the challenge so I will work regardless of the pain of my arthritic bones. Unfortunately, I have just been made redundant so now what ??? To be able to live I will have to sell our family home and rent someone else’s, I just feel devastated and wish I’d never been born.

  40. Those silly old GRASPI’s should have gone to specsavers.

  41. According to the government it is ok to short change women who have paid into something for 40 years then say no you got to work another 6 yrs. It is a shame they dont say that it is a financial burden to the country on young girls having children at 16 or 17 never paid a penny into the system collect benefits housing etc for years. Also the government has also thought of everything in financial terms they have left out time spent with family grandchildren mine will be teenagers when I retire how do I get back all the time I could have spent with them?? I remember seeing my grandparents for years sadly my grandchildren will miss out as I am too busy working!!!

  42. Margaret Constantinou 19th March 2017 at 11:46 am

    Born Oct 54. It’s a digrace that the government realise they have made a mistake and are sweeping it under the carpet, not prepared to right a wrong. Surely, a think tank can make things fair for us 50’s women. But they don’t want to! When it comes to wanting our support for their campaign, they will get the door closed on them.

    • I was told five years ago that I had paid enough contributions for a full pension but instead of starting to receive it in 2014 I’ve got to wait till 2020! Where is the 30 grand plus they owe me?

  43. Patricia Spacey 14th April 2017 at 3:22 pm

    Like many of the above I was born October 53. I have never been informed personally of the 2 changes. I nrw about the 1995 change and accept it to a point. However it did come as a shock when checking my pension date on line it had been moved again. If I had been born in April before 6th then I would have retired at 60. In 6 months the increase has accellerated my SP by nearly 5 years. This is totally unfair and I will have paid 50 years NI. Only needing 35 for a full pension. This cannot be right and is so unfair. A contract broken with no right to appeal and no personal notification. No company would get away with doing this.

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