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May: No Brexit could cause ‘catastrophic harm’ to politics

The prime minister is to warn that politics will suffer “catastrophic harm” if the Brexit referendum result is not implemented, reports say.

In a speech to factory workers in Stoke-on-Trent later today, Theresa May will say: “As we have seen over the last few weeks, there are some in Westminster who would wish to delay or even stop Brexit and who will use every device available to them to do so.”

She will add that MPs deciding to block Brexit will be more likely than them opting for a no-deal scenario after tomorrow’s vote in the House of Commons.

The speech will say: “I ask MPs to consider the consequences of their actions on the faith of the British people in our democracy.”

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The BBC reports that May will give an example of the Welsh devolution referendum in 1997, when people voted by a margin of 0.3 per cent to create the Welsh Assembly.

She will say: “That result was accepted by both sides and the popular legitimacy of that institution has never seriously been questioned.”

In 1997, May voted against the establishment of the Welsh Assembly.

Meanwhile, Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn told the Andrew Marr show yesterday that the party vows to vote against May’s deal and will start moves to trigger a general election once the vote has taken place.

He said: “We will table a motion of no confidence in the government at a time of our choosing, but it’s going to be soon”.

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  1. “May will give an example of the Welsh devolution referendum in 1997, when people voted by a margin of 0.3 per cent to create the Welsh Assembly.”

    That hardly compares to the Brexit Issue!

    Some Tories complain about letting democracy down if Brexit isn’t implemented. It’s already been let down by the lies and crooked financial tactics of the leave campaign. It is undemocratic to implement brexit on the basis of that vote.

    Remainers will never give up on this issue and, if we leave and then re-enter (which we would in due course) we will lose the various rebates and opt outs that we have now.

  2. Far better harm to politics than harm to our wallets. For most politics is now ‘a busted flush’ anyway.

  3. I believe that we had the vote in 2016 to stop the rise of UKIP and it worked, for the time being. Don’t forget that UKIP got 13% of all votes in 2013.
    Remain voters may not go away, but neither will Leave voters. I for one am not really fan of UKIP (I’m a Tory member and I like my Tory MP), but they’ll get my vote in the next GE, if it’s the only option to execute the decision to Leave in 2016.

    • Phil. I wonder if you actually care about the people that will lose their jobs. Or doesn’t that concern you, as long as you get brexit.

      I have a close relative whose job is being directly affected, now. This is due to the lack of orders being placed due to brexit. They (or others in the company) are likely to lose their jobs. If this continues. That is happening to real people. It’s not fantasy.

      By the way, are you happy that, by voting UKIP, you would appear to be aligning yourself with racists such as James Goddard and Stephen Yaxley-Lennon.

      • Hi Patrick,
        I can only speak for myself, but from the other leave voters I’ve spoken to, we all seem to be of the same opinion. So to help to get our point across (hopefully before we end up with an Extreme government), here’s my 2 pence worth.
        I do, but I personally see any negative impacts as being purely short term and in exchange for much greater prosperity in the medium – longer term. It costs us a fortune to be a Member, ok we get some benefits back (at the EU’s discretion and not ours), but at the end of the day we import more than we export to the EU, so it’s not in their interest (aside from warning other Net contributing nations from leaving) to put up barriers to trade and let’s face it, the large industrial powers (VW as an example) will not stand being priced out of the UK market for long.
        Regarding food prices increasing (I appreciate it’s not a question of yours, but certainly something being spouted by the press), think back to the lettuce “crisis” last year when the Spanish were having trouble, within a couple of days we had them coming over from South America, ok they were twice the price (£1 instead of 50p, but greener and tastier), but that price would fall dramatically once the logistical efficiencies were ironed out and EU import taxes removed.
        I would argue that this uncertainty and lack of orders experienced by your friend’s business is due to the negative picture being slyly painted by our beloved press (under advice from bitter Editors and “Experts” with hidden agendas). Unfortunately, many folks don’t notice the word ‘Could’ when they read such articles, it Could also go the other way and be immediately beneficial for us to leave.
        How about the additional jobs created if in the short term it proves to our benefit and almost certainly to our benefit in the medium to longer term?
        In response to your question about whether I’d be happy to vote for UKIP, then my response would be “No, but I will if the powers at be don’t deliver on the 2016 result and there isn’t a more credible alternative” and I think that this is what Mrs May is hinting at (the introduction of an inexperienced and possibly extreme government at the next election).
        Unfortunately, racist/facist/sexist/ageist and all manner of other horrible individuals have managed to worm their way into all areas of society and I’d hope that even with a UKIP government, the UK would remain a multi-cultural and civilized place.
        I hope this helps.
        Phil

        • Thanks for your civil replay Phil. I do fear, however, that the effect on a lot of people’s jobs will not be temporary. Certainly not if less students coming from Europe continues.

          If you have seen my previous comments on Brexit you might remember that the economic situation was not my main concern. It is setting the UK apart from the (peace enabling) EU. We will now be competitors and the right wing will continue to be enabled, here, as it has been since the referendum.

          Regardless of the upcoming vote this has riven our society and will continue to do so for years to come. We didn’t have that a few years ago.

          Cheers anyway. We will all see what happens soon.

          • Thank you to you too Patrick, I agree the future is frightening and this is a much larger issue than just an ‘In or Out of the EU’ decision.
            If we consider the recent example of the escalations between Ukraine and Russia, is it the threat of EU sanctions that is stopping Russia from flexing its muscle and bulldozing Ukraine, or the threat of engagement from the UK’s armed forces?
            I think we (the UK) play a much larger role in maintaining peace than we’re given credit for.

        • “It costs us a fortune to be a Member”

          The net cost works out at 1.5% of GDP (after grants and rebates). Sure this isn’t chicken feed, but if this is considered a fortune how to regards our foreign aid bill of 1.7% on GDP?

          It also costs us 2% of GDP for our defence budget. Defence against what? So that we can send our troops to Iraq and Afghanistan to get killed and maimed?

          • Hi Harry,
            The grants we get back are not subject to our control/discretion. I think that if the British public (or the power’s at be, that we elect) were to control them, then they’d be far more effective.
            Foreign aid is huge, I agree.
            I think we should spend more than the current 2% on defense. We don’t just protect ourselves, but our friends across the world, so you could argue that part of this budget could really be deemed as additional foreign aid.
            Iraq was a mistake by a slimey weasel of a Labour PM, but it did fill up the US oil wells and ultimately led to Afghanistan being a problem, as we’d lost Saddam to police the middle east.

  4. Going back to the original headline, I believe that the damage has been done, in fact it began with the campaigns of both sides in the 2016 referendum. Both leavers and remainers took a number here and a number there, added a dose of extrapolation to support their position and ignored any inconvenient truths. It was all seen as a lie if the opposing side said it but a ‘well it could have happened’ it was from the home team. Sadly it has got worse and, apart from the media who exercise influence in a totally irresponsible manner, our political class has to admit their own culpability here. Their behaviour and language both inside and outside of the House is inflammatory and is a contributory factor in some of the disgraceful incidents directed towards MPs that we have seen in the media. Regardless of what happens now, they need to show some proper leadership, respect and understanding for the opposition view and be honest -the public are not stupid – otherwise the splits in the country will never heal. No-one can claim the high moral ground in all of this nor indeed can say what will happen, given any of the alternatives in front of us, with the absolute certainty with which they deliver their ‘soundbites’.

    • Our politicians (from both the main parties) have merely confirmed and underlined the very low opinion that many of us have held for a good number of years now. All you need to is to just examine previous posts over the years on this site.

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