Witnesses line up to slam sales-driven banks

Which? Future of Banking Commission

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Bank bashing was at the top of the agenda as Which? heard from the first expert witnesses in its Future of Banking Commission last week.

The commission, headed by Conservative MP David Davis, Treasury select committee chairman John McFall and Liberal Democrat Shadow Chancellor Vince Cable, is focused on the consumer, so witnesses were asked about what the banks are doing to help customers, particularly those with debt problems and those with little financial education.

The first witnesses were representatives of the consumer advice industry and all had tales of misselling, callousness and abuse of power.

Toynbee Hall head of financial inclusion Sian McLean used an example of a former mortgage industry executive who had lost his job as a result of the credit crunch to illustrate “the lack of responsibility” of banks.

She said the executive used all his savings to try to pay his mortgage but finally approached his part-nationalised bank and asked it to ignore the redemption penalty on the mortgage as he tried to sell his home to pay the debt. She said: “The answer came back, ’you signed on the dotted line, we want £13,000, thank you very much’.”

Citizens Advice Bureau chief executive David Harker said the CAB had also seen evidence of callousness from banks as well as numerous examples of misselling to indebted borrowers.

He said: “We have seen examples of people who have walked into the banks with a lot of credit and store card debt and have asked the bank for help, only to be sold a range of even worse financial products.”

Banks are “places to sell things”, according to Harker and are no longer in keeping with the traditional view of them as places where people receive prudent advice and simple financial products.

Financial Mail personal finance editor Jeff Prestridge had previewed the Which? Commission in a Mail article and said bank branch staff had responded because they were so “ashamed” of what they were forced to do in their heavily sales-orientated jobs.

He said: “Banks’ sales culture is having a terribly detrimental impact on customers. A lot of the branches now are nothing more than places designed to sell as much product as possible.

CAB chief executive Adam Harker: ’We need generic financial advice, separate from the selling process. Banks should be giving people the objective advice that they need’

“A lot of people still trust the staff in the branches but that trust is being abused, as they are not allowed to treat customers fairly, as is required.

“What is unfortunate is that the sales culture has been allowed to perpetuate and the FSA has just stood aside and let it happen.”

There was little mention of independent financial advice in the debate but when Capital Economics economist Roger Bootle asked why banks were driven by “a quick buck”, the experts said the lack of a personal relationship with the client was at the heart of the problem.

Financial Services Consumer Panel chairman Adam Philips said: “You can treat your customers as a source of capital or you can have a long-term relationship where people come to you for help with their savings, pensions and investments as they move through life. But that is not a model that any retail banks operate because there is more money to be made in moving money around rather than good customer service.”

The witnesses were not optimistic that banks would change their sales culture - Harker said it would be impossible to “put the genie back in the bottle”. He said: “The incentive for banks is to sell - that is what they do”.

McLean said education and advice are the key to fighting the ingrained sales culture. “We need to educate the people going into the banks. Right now, there is not a national conversation happening that is asking how we get to a point where people are not financially naive.”

Harker agreed, saying: “We need generic financial advice, separate from the selling process. Banks should be giving people the objective advice that they need.”

The experts all voluntarily offered additional written evidence to vindicate their views and to prove further that additional bank regulation and advice is key in bring an end to the sales culture.

Prestridge said: “Until banks get away from the sales-driven mentality, then financial services will continue to be blighted. That spreads mistrusts and affects financial services as a whole.”

The commission is set to interview further expert witnesses such as Bank of England governor Mervyn King, outgoing FSA chief executive Hector Sants and City minister Lord Myners later this month. Which? chief executive Peter Vicary-Smith says he is confident that the evidence his group is collecting from members of the public and from the commission hearings will “help shape a banking system that meets all our needs”.

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Readers' comments (2)

  • :
    HSBC staff under pressure to sell

    I have worked for HSBC for ten years I can confirm the pressure on staff to sell products such as fee paying bank accounts and insurancesand meet the branch daily points target is unbearable.
    HSBC try to justify this as selling to customer needs. However if you have been efficient and helpful and at the end of the day do not have any points to report you will be monitored and eventually put on an action plan. Managers ask for pledges and the area office are constantly sending reports via email as to what branches are not performing and on some reports individual performances are also listed- a form of cyber bullying. we are now told that HSBC "Wants to be the Waitrose of banking" and attract only the Premier and Fee paying accounts and leave the "dross" to the other high street competitors. I have seen staff sell insurance to customers who cannot speak English, the same with fee paying accounts. The pressure is unbearbale and decent caring staff leave and are replaced with sales staff. The bonuses (salaries are low) are awared to those who have sold the most and hit target consequently you have staff who try and cherrypick only want to deal with a customer if there is a potential sale, rather than help with a query or service issue. I have known several colleagues off with stress due to this culture. HSBC will put a spin on it but all of the above is true- All the above is TRUE I know because I have worked in it.

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    HSBC - If you don't want to buy don't bank here!


    Dear HSBC Customer, if you aren't buying don't waste our time.
    Can I upgrade your account to advance only £12.95 per month ? Oh and if you are Plus/Advance and need phone us you will get a U.K call centre.
    We tend to route our lower value customers to our overseas call centres.
    Premier invest £50k and you can be Premier (This one is actually a good service)
    Do you have a mortgage with HSBC?
    Do you have Home Insurance with HSBC?
    Do you have Life/Redundancy cover with HSBC?
    Do you have a Credit Card with HSBC?
    Do you have savings with HSBC?
    Do you have a loan with HSBC?
    Can we do an individual review on you to ensure you are making the most of your banking with us ?(this is so that we can try and sell you something)
    Please I will get into trouble if I do not sell a fee paying bank account or give you an insurance quote or similar.
    Oh you only came into the branch for transactional banking - use the machines or can't you use the internet because I am targeted on internet sign up too!
    Dear customer how I would love to answer your query and give you a good level of customer service but can't you see how stressed I am trying to meet these ridiculously high sales targets to avoid an action plan or low grading on performance?

    Sorry if I am crying I haven't made a sale today!

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  • PAY THE STAFF A DECENT WAGE NOT TARGET DRIVEN STOP THE TOP MANAGEMENT SETTING RIDICULOUS SALES TARGES. STOP PAYING THE LIKES OF MIKE GEOGHAN EXCESS BONUSES.
    CONCENTRATE ON LOOKING AFTER THE CUSTOMERS AND STAFF

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